The danger of the internet (and YouTube)

Disclaimer before I begin: this is one of the stupidest, most dangerous builds I have seen in a long time. I am only referencing the video because of that, not because it has any merit whatsoever.

This person’s channel has about 24000 followers. My YouTube channel currently has about 400 (I haven’t tried promoting my videos on YouTube at all, perhaps this is an example of why not).

What is perhaps the most shocking of all, is the massive number of comments, all complementing the build, and wanting to emulate/duplicate it.

Even those concerned with the safety aspects have missed the fundamental safety issues with the design.

Want to learn how to remove one’s hand? Watch how the ‘saw’ is used at the end. Sadly, the person shows some skill with the build, further disguising the fact for the unaware just how dangerous the device is that has been created.

24000 followers. And the video has been watched 840000 times.

How many of these have become candidates for the Darwin Awards?

16 Responses

  1. I am a long time subscriber to Savvas his builds are awesome

    • Perhaps, but what bothers me would be watching any instruction video by someone who has such a fundamental lack of understanding of basic safe practice of a very common machine.

      If you see a new concept/idea/technique demonstrated, how can you have any confidence that you are seeing the right way to do it, and if you choose to emulate what you saw, what confidence can you have that you may not find yourself without a hand one day?

  2. Stu are you suggesting he could pinch the blade at the back and have his hand drawn toward the blade? I’ve never tried what he’s trying (free hand cross cut) because why would you but aside from not having a blade cover and riving knife it doesn’t look too dangerous.
    What am I not getting?

    • The most dangerous thing you can do, is to not use a fence or mitre gauge while cutting. Ignoring the lack of guarding, if you even slightly twist the timber in the cut (ripping or cross cutting), the opportunity for the saw to draw your hand into the blade is huge.

      The kickback wouldn’t be fun either.

      There is another video on YouTube, where a woodworker deliberately demonstrates a kickback. You can see in that video his hand being pulled towards the blade- his got within a mm or so, and it was dumb luck that he didn’t loose it altogether.

      Kickbacks are bad news- not because of the timber accelerating to a couple hundred km/hr, but what happens to the appendage holding said bit of timber. Our reaction time is at least 90% slower than what would be required to pull away in time.

      • Yeah fair enough. I’ve never had kickback – 90% of the time I have a riving knife on. I have cut a small turn button for under a tabletop on a miter saw and had that torn out of my hand which was frightening. And painful!

  3. I agree entirely with you Stuart. That video is the most dangerous thing I have seen in a long time. Having 24000 followers to a Youtube channel doesn’t make the build any better or acceptable. If something internally broke free then the spinning blade would potentially find its way through the box while still attached/powered to/by the motor.

    Furthermore the lack of any guidance whatsoever invites the user to lose a digit or limb. His demonstration of crosscutting was dire. There isn’t a riving knife or basic splitter either.
    I shudder to think that people are going to see this as an example of what can be done and make it for themselves.

  4. Surely the cost of the materials involved would come close to the price of a basic table saw from Bunnings/Masters….

  5. pellcorp as a professional who has had to go looking for finger parts under saws and finger nails and flesh mince under jointers this video gives me nightmares o_O

  6. What I also find interesting is that he has some nice tools (track saw, drills, c’sink bits, etc) to make the cheap thing. No eye protection either.

  7. What a fabulous degree example of co coordinating tools wifth his viewers… but I assume that’s why those big-door mob “exist”. Would love to see his band saw demo…. rippen 7″ hardwood.!!!

  8. My first table saw was a similar thing, long before I ever heard of the word ‘kickback’ but I learned soon enough. The good thing about my home made one was that it was belt driven (with a loose belt) so if anything happened or you pushed it too hard the belt would just slip and the blade would come to a stop suddenly. The modern day saws are way too powerful for beginners in my opinion. If I was a beginner again I would feel much safer on a saw with a slightly loose belt for this reason. Never had kickback with my belt driven home made table saw for that reason. I never had any guards and often did dangerous things I would never do now that I’m wiser. But if anything went wrong the blade would come to a stop before it threw the wood anywhere. I agree that videos like this are dangerous but its certainly not the only one I’ve seen. The world keeps breading stupid people, not much we can do about it.

  9. Jezuz H Christ… completely agree with you Stu, that saw is an accident waiting to happen.

    Here is the link to the video where Tom Hintz tries to control a “kickback”.

    • When you can see just how easy it is to do serious damage with a commercially-built machine, makes you wonder why risk it with a wooden one, and secondly why you NEVER, EVER freehand cut either rip or crosscut on a tablesaw.

      This video is a great example why not!!!

  10. The testing he does during the build is as a crosscut saw and does not try to rip.
    In part 2 he makes a sled to hold the stock during crosscuts, this makes the thing slightly safer but I don’t have enough spare fingers to want to try this thing.

  11. That made me cringe. Hard to watch him making the zero clearance top let alone the freehand crosscutting!

  12. I reckon I’ve been subscribed to Savvas for a good couple of years and I admire much of what he does. I can also reassure you he has since purchased (and now uses) a saw that somebody else has made (albeit from a factory somewhere in China).

    Making your own table saw/inverting a circular saw is an idea that many people seem to entertain. Perhaps more so in the UK? I thought about it once myself but couldn’t come up with a solution for the guard.

    I’ve worked with people who do terrifying things (ripping an aluminium ruler in two on a mitre saw!!) and I can accept that some people will be okay with their own practices within their own workshops but the part near the end, breaking the saw blade through the top, was quite frightening! He was clearly using a dull blade too which carries another set of issues.

    I like some of his ideas and his design overcame the need for a worm-drive/gearing to raise and lower the blade but I also share some of these sentiments over the risk to safety.

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