A place for everything…

You know the old saying, and it is a rule I find particularly satisfying when I can apply it.

When the latest Carbatec catalog email came out, one thing that caught my eye was an organiser from Kreg. Now to a certain extent, there are plenty of unbranded organisers out there, but I did like the Kreg toolboxx (and the spelling is deliberate).

There are two versions – the one I got, which is just the toolboxx, along with 1050 assorted Kreg screws (150 of each standard size and thread pitch), and a deeper version which comes with a serious collection of Kreg jigs and clamps. If I didn’t already have a full set of what is in the Master collection, that would have been the one to go for.

If you don’t have a Kreg pockethole jig, this is definitely a good time to give some serious consideration to one. They are not everyone’s cup of tea, but then they can solve a joinery problem where many other methods struggle. It has gotten me out of trouble on a number of occasions.

But back to the case I got, and it got loaded up pretty quickly!

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The top is secured with the main clamps, so it is not a situation where you can pick up the case with the top accidentally unsecured and send screws everywhere. There are 15 removeable compartments, and three fixed ones (the longest in the middle ideal for the long driver, and the drill bit(s).

I managed to fit all my extra screws in as well (almost), so a total of around 2000 screws fitted in the compartments.

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To keep track of what screws I have (for reordering if nothing else), I cut the label off each of the boxes I had and laid them on top. I may change this to Dymo labels on the individual compartment, but will decide that at a later stage.

In the lower area, I was easily able to fit the jigs I have and their accessories, all except the Kreg pockethole jig itself. That doesn’t fit for the simple reason that I have mine mounted in a large backing board (30mm thick or so), as documented a ways back (2009) so fitting it in is simply not possible!

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I have the panel clamp and the pockethole clamp in there, along with the micro pockethole adapter, dust cover, and a portable set of pockethole screws.

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The one thing I found interesting (disappointing?) are the Kreg screws that came with the toolboxx. Not sure of the quality of the material – don’t have an easy way to test their strength, but the head is different. Unlike the standard Kreg screw, which uses Robertson screws, these are a hybrid of Robertson and Phillips. Hybrid is another word for compromise.

The Robertson drive does not sit as deeply in the screw head, although it did drive in and out multiple times without issue. Overall however, I don’t like the decrease in contact area and the shallower driver position. The Phillips part is heavily compromised, and burred very easily – it could not drive the screw in fully into hardwood without significant slippage and burring, and needed the Robertson to finish driving it home.

I just don’t get the point of the compromise. If you want to use Phillips, use Phillips and accept the problems (driver camming out easily for example), otherwise, stay with the dedicated Robertson screw. I hope it is only the screws that came with the toolboxx that are this compromised, hybrid head, and not the whole Kreg range.

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Top left, the original Robertson screw type from Kreg, top right is the one that has burred heavily. The Robertson drive can still manage, the Phillips cannot.

No specific mention of a change of head on the Kreg website.

So other than the screws (which are still functional), I am liking the toolboxx! Available from Carbatec.

3 Responses

  1. Two comments;

    1. I bought the Toolboxx™ Master Collection in January and then some more boxes of 1000 screws. The head is definitely not like what you’ve shown. Probably in the middle actually. To it’s the square recess but with an ever so gentle point on each of the four corners. I guess this is to keep the driver from sticking in the screw after some serious driving.

    2. I see that your Kreg Jig is mounted flush with the clamping board. With this set-up you deny yourself the option of using the material support stop but I guess this is not critical.

    Apparently Kreg did change their screw supplier, so maybe the bulk kits still contain the funny ones.

    • Interesting – had never heard of, or seen the material support stop.

      Still prefer the recessed version that I’ve made, as I can (and have) pocket hole significantly large sections. Where it comes to having a stop, it is a good idea, and what I may do instead is rebate in some Kreg T Track, and use a woodpecker flip stop in that track instead.

      Thanks for the heads-up – has given me an idea to improve my current arrangement!

  2. Thanks for the update on the Kreg Toolboxx Master Collection.

    Prior to Carbatec selling this system I had purchased many individual Kreg items from them however I was disappointed that there was never a toolbox to hold all the items in one place.

    One day whilst looking through the various toolboxes at my local big green store I found an identical looking toolbox (minus all the Kreg accessories). I purchased the toolbox at a very good price and proceeded to fill it with my items. Was I surprised to find out later that the two toolboxes appear to be the same.

    So if you are like me and you already have many Kreg accessories get a toolbox that is similar in form fit and function from the big green store.

    Keep up the good work

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