First, apologies to those who have emailed me about the TS10L – sorry that I haven’t gotten back to any of you as yet.
I haven’t seriously investigated what it is worth – new it would be around $3000+.
It is significantly superior to the TSC10HB, both in function and build quality (not that I am saying the TSC10HB is necessarily a bad tablesaw!) It has 52″ rails, left tilt, biesemeyer fence, quick release low profile fence, weighing 220kg. Arbor lock for ease of blade change, and dado blade capable (18mm or so capacity) (not to mention the power to drive one easily). I’m not removing the extra insert to the right of the table, ready for a router on a router mount to be dropped straight in.
It has an impressively small amount of runout – a really accurate machine.
Anyone wanting to have a look before deciding if you seriously want it are welcome (and encouraged)-I prefer to know you are confident in what you are buying! You can also see the saw throughout this site obviously, including videos.
Offers are welcome, as are questions.
A couple of major milestones, and really the last two as well. Looking back at my tracking timetable (1 Nov), the last boxes to complete were:
Power for the shed: done (or will be completed by the day’s end)
Final Building Inspection: done! (just need to send in a copy of the electrical certificate)
The shed is now a legitimate, legal, completed (as far as construction is concerned) structure. w00t!
There is one item left on the original list – an opening.
Let me get my house in order (and by that I mean the shed), machines and tools moved in, mezzanine area finished (which won’t take much over this weekend), and then we will talk. It won’t be one of those Facebook free-for-all parties, but I’d like to show my regulars (if interested of course) the place. I’ll have the SawStop up and running then too, and I do have a spare brake and blade………. and I’m sure a banger could be coerced into jumping into the blade!
Should do it reasonably soon while it is still BBQ weather, and I do have some items I need to find new homes for, including my awesome TS10L 10″ tablesaw, a Router Master, and perhaps even a Jet Midi Lathe.
Got another update today, with the order being placed with the manufacturing factory today, and with a bit of encouragement we have a 3 week deliver to site.
That means (barring some minor manufacturing issues), delivery to site on December 2. With a bit more manipulation, I’d hope to have construction starting either later that week, or at the start of the next (depending on what job the erectors are doing, and how soon after the 2nd it will complete, and the infamous weather).
So 5 weeks today should (with a whole lot of variables added in) see the doors of Stu’s Shed TNG open (that’s a Star Trek reference fwiw – saves me justifying whether this is shed number 2, 3 or 4!)
And as a separate (but not entirely unrelated) bit of news, I have been chatting with I Wood Like (Gabbett Machinery) (they are holding my saw until I am in a position to receive it), and it is going to be relocated to their Melbourne factory ready for delivery. As much as I’d like it sooner, there really isn’t an option but to wait for the shed to be ready.
For those playing at home, it is the SawStop Professional 3HP. It has the full biesemeyer rip fence, 52″ rails with the additional table infill. About the only thing I need to confirm is whether the blade guard comes with a dust extraction port, or if that is an upgrade (and how much that upgrade would be). (Update – comes with the machine – the other guard I saw is for the contractor’s saw (I saw a saw, and saw the saw was sure not to saw and make you sore)), So final price is $4004, although I will probably want to add a few extra bits to that – another insert so I can cut it for dados, and the dado brake at this stage.
Going to be a busy christmas getting all this organised, and the shed itself obviously!
At least I have some pretty firm dates to work with – that makes a world of difference.
- Yes, I’m being Fair Dinkum – the shed has a green light! (stusshed.com)
Although I put up the small storage shed last weekend, I really didn’t get a chance to actually make use of the space.
Today, I had a crack at trying to sort out the garage (where the majority of my machines are stored). For a while it didn’t seem to be going particularly well – too much stuff, not enough storage, but slowly, slowly, things began to fall into place.
In the end, the 8m3 shed was filled to the brim – I would struggle to fit anything more in there at all. And once I got that much stuff out of the garage, it was just sufficient to provide sufficient flexibility to move things around. As far as the decision to go with a shed rather than using a storage unit – I am storing pretty much all that I intended to, and now I’ll have a shed to show for it after the 2 months is up (the intended time I thought I’d need the unit). If it happens to be more than 2 months (every chance the way things always go), then I’ll be ahead on the cash stakes. Money for jam.
So it is a shed of sorts – not able to handle large materials, but I can access each of the machines in there – the tablesaw, router table, jointer, thicknesser, both bandsaws, drill press, CNC (while I still have it), the lathes, and even the benchtop machines – there is an existing workbench along one wall in the garage.
Sure it is all a compromise, but hey – anything beats the last 5 months! The thicknesser and tablesaw can only be run off the generator – no 15A power available otherwise.
Tomorrow I might even get to make some sawdust. Exciting!
Going to throw it out there – if you are interested in helping me design the shed layout, I’d be most interested in your ideas!
To start, these are the shed dimensions. The location of the roller door is pretty much fixed (won’t fit anywhere else), but all other doors and window can be shifted at this stage. There needs to be one door accessing the rear triangular area, and I do want a door accessing the back of the shed.
Inside, there are columns to compete with, which are fixed in place. The slab design shows a pillar directly in the middle of the roller door, but I am doubting that is actually needed! Pretty pointless if it is – if this shed was for a vehicle, you’d have to split the car (or boat) in two to get it inside!
The door in the 9’10″ wall only needs to be in one of the two 9’10″ walls, move as suitable!
I’ve been using the Grizzly Shed Designer website – if you know of something better, I’d be keen to hear!
This is one design I have come up with, but I’m sure it isn’t as good as it could be.
So some specifics. The tablesaw is the TS10L (discontinued), and has a long wing on the right. It needs in and outfeed, but also room to the lefthand side for long items (at least until I get a Kapex). There is a router table which is about 680mm wide, and 1000mm long. Infeed and outfeed is across the shorter width, as the Incra LS Positioner extends down the length.
There is a workbench – 1500×800, and the Torque Workcentre 2500×800 (the lathe on top of the workbench represents the overhead arm).
A 15″ thicknesser, a 6″ longbed jointer, a drill press.
There are 2 bandsaws, one a 17″ Carbatec which is used for resawing, and a 14″ Jet for small items (no outfeed required).
A Triton spindle sander, and a disk sander/linisher. There are three lathes showing. One is the DVR XP, one is the Nova Comet II, and the third is a Jet Mini, but this one will be used to hold three buffing wheels, so is part of the sanding section.
As far as the rest, I’m not showing any timber storage as it will either be on the mezzanine, or stored elsewhere. The dust extractor and air compressor will be in a nearby shed, and can either be located in the triangular section (top left), or at the back, or alongside the shed at the right – your choice. I’m not showing any storage at the moment – either suggest what you will, or have a look at older photos of the workshop to see what I have been using in the past.
So that’s the general scope – questions to refine the issues welcome. Hope someone can come up with a plan that really works!
The router table has always been particularly good for cutting a groove, particularly in smaller items (such as making boxes). The orientation of the blade to the timber for one, the diameter of the blade (vs a tablesaw), the speed of the cutter, the accuracy in setup.
The one frustration I have found is having to accept the width of the groove is limited to the width of the cutter of the router bit, or having to take multiple passes. Unlike a tablesaw, the concept of a dado blade is foreign to the router table.
Well until now that is.
Toolstoday.com have available a really interesting router bit indeed from Amana Tool. It is an EZ Dial Slot Cutter, and unlike a tablesaw dado blade stack, this router bit does not have shims, or even need to be taken apart and reassembled.
Looking at the anatomy of the router bit, from the top-down. The top threaded section is the range of adjustment of the router bit, and there are two types available – a 1/8″ – 1/4″, and a 1/4″ – 1/2″. Next is the locking nut – once the width of the slot is set. The knurled knob is the adjustment for the router bit, and is then locked in position with the locking nut.
The blade is next – it is a four-flute router bit, but because of the adjustment, each side of the trench is cut with two of the flutes. As the knurled adjustment knob is turned, two of the flutes move with the knob, and the other two remain fixed.
A bearing then sits under the flutes – useful when following curves, and other times a router fence is not in use. Just below that is a section with two flats – this is useful if the locking nut is too tight – a spanner can be fit on this section so it can be undone without having to risk damage to the router chuck or shaft lock.
Finally, the shaft is a finely finished, accurate 1/2″ shaft. (An inaccurate shaft is either difficult to fit the router collet if too large, or at risk of slipping if too small).
I was working with the 1/8-1/4″ router bit, but the concept is the same. In the above image, the two opposite flutes move, the other two are fixed. That dial-in adjustment is remarkably liberating. Being able to set the width of the resulting slot to accurately match the material that will fit in it (whether that be another piece of timber, a sheet of glass etc), and also easy to add an accurate amount of clearance if required.
The quality of the router bit is obvious, as is the finish that is achieved.
Not only can the width of the slot be set, but it can be adjusted with the router bit fixed in the router. (So long as you intend to remove more material – too hard to put material back!) Rather than trying to work out the range to move the router up and down again, a test cut or two, a dial-in of width, and your accuracy and flexibility of the table is increased dramatically.
Once you experience the convenience of a shim-less, dial in width of slot for a router bit, you’ll be wishing a tablesaw dado blade was as easy, as infinitely adjustable, and as accurate.
Available from Toolstoday.com
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Despite information to the contrary, it appears that Carbatec Perth have received a shipment of the impressive TS10L tablesaw (the same one that graces my workshop).
No idea what this means about their availability, or what price they are, but if you are in the market for a great 10″ tablesaw, it’d be worth a phonecall or 2. One to your local Carbatec, and one to Perth. If anyone finds out more news about this, please post it here- price, number of machines available etc.
I am assuming/hoping that we are talking about the same machine here- the TS10L of old.
I am still a big fan of mine if you haven’t gathered. So Go Go Go!